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Liam Kelley's avatar

I did this with my brothers, I added to it a convoluted process for how they are to shake the dice (and blamed them for not doing it properly when getting bad rolls). One of them even forgot for a minute that the process has nothing to do with what number is rolled. It was a lot of fun and worked very well.

The most important thing is we heard from my sister who works at a local water park that their sales manager is in danger of loosing his job, because of poor revenue last year due to storms and weather. And my youngest brother, who is 13, said "Hey, that's just like that dice game we played! He can't help it that the weather was bad!" Even a 13 year old can be more competent than MBAs! LOL

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Christopher R Chapman's avatar

Excellent results, Liam! Really pleased to hear the "playtest" worked so well in conveying the theory. Deming himself called the original exercise "stupidly simple" and would point out that variation was easy enough to be understood by kids. In fact, I think he had more faith in kids than management to solve problems...

How did you handle the Daily Haranguing? Did you change things up or go Rules As Written? Would you be willing to share the PBC of your results?

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Liam Kelley's avatar

I forgot to add, taking inspiration again from real experience, I would take one gray die and roll it, and say "See! I can do it without making any defects! What's so hard about that?" Also making the lowest performers of the previous day do practice rolls was really hilarious to us all.

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Christopher R Chapman's avatar

😆 I was wondering if anyone would pick up on the futility of the practice rolls...

Nice touch with the gray die... might have to incorporate that...

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Liam Kelley's avatar

The Daily Haranguing was very similar to Deming's, like in the youtube video of him doing the experiment, both in wording and in performance. I added some zingers I heard in real life, like "If you don't want to do your job right, I'll hire someone who will".

I added grey dice to the experiment because I happened to have them and to illustrate the good product, but they were entirely ignored. I don't know if I still have the sheet, it was about a month ago when we played. But the last day of production was absolutely atrocious despite all the measures management took. They thought I scripted it, but remembered I can't script dice rolls.

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Michael Walsh's avatar

This is great. I've been inspired by your writings to go back and refamiliarise myself with the red bead experiment. I've only ever experienced it online (YouTube etc) and have always wanted to run a session using it as the basis for learning more about systems thinking but ... the cost and purchase of the paddle/beads is quite expensive where I live. Now I have a viable (and portable) model to use. Many thanks.

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Christopher R Chapman's avatar

Thanks, Michael! Do let me know how it works for you and your group and what improvements you think could be made.

CRC.

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