I have been at my company for over 30 years. I have seen managers come and go..and agree that this phenomena happens. The on,y times I’ve wanted to leave was when I had an incompatible manager.
My patience in ‘waiting them out’ has served me well… I would only leave out of frustration and loss of autonomy to do my best work.
Congratulations on your long tenure! It's a shame you've had to "wait out" poor managers, but that is a "failure demand" mode for almost every organization. What losses accrued because of that are unknown and unknowable, of course. Certainly, to be in one business for so long suggests you're finding a good sense purpose and joy in what you do.
I have done this. Mostly through frustration in a role. I’m now seeing the benefit of seeing it through. To learn about the company and then add value. An additional malady is that people who do job hop are led by people who job hop. So it has, perhaps, become the norm. Plus if people are looking for happiness in their role and not finding it, it seems a reasonable solution.
Very astute points, Bill - as I say in the post, this behaviour is encoded as a *feature* into the prevailing system of management, and has been for so long that we accept it as normal.
Several years ago I was working at a gig for a major bank, and I recall one young manager I interacted with bemoaning how "lazy" the developers on the floor were: "It's called going to WORK not going to FUN!".
It hadn't even crossed his mind the role leadership played in this dysfunction, nor how his years of conditioning led him to that conclusion. In such an environment, I'd agree: Getting out is probably the right course of action.
I have been at my company for over 30 years. I have seen managers come and go..and agree that this phenomena happens. The on,y times I’ve wanted to leave was when I had an incompatible manager.
My patience in ‘waiting them out’ has served me well… I would only leave out of frustration and loss of autonomy to do my best work.
Congratulations on your long tenure! It's a shame you've had to "wait out" poor managers, but that is a "failure demand" mode for almost every organization. What losses accrued because of that are unknown and unknowable, of course. Certainly, to be in one business for so long suggests you're finding a good sense purpose and joy in what you do.
I have done this. Mostly through frustration in a role. I’m now seeing the benefit of seeing it through. To learn about the company and then add value. An additional malady is that people who do job hop are led by people who job hop. So it has, perhaps, become the norm. Plus if people are looking for happiness in their role and not finding it, it seems a reasonable solution.
Very astute points, Bill - as I say in the post, this behaviour is encoded as a *feature* into the prevailing system of management, and has been for so long that we accept it as normal.
Several years ago I was working at a gig for a major bank, and I recall one young manager I interacted with bemoaning how "lazy" the developers on the floor were: "It's called going to WORK not going to FUN!".
It hadn't even crossed his mind the role leadership played in this dysfunction, nor how his years of conditioning led him to that conclusion. In such an environment, I'd agree: Getting out is probably the right course of action.
CRC.