Teaser: Conversations with John Dues
United Schools CLO/CFO Explains How He Brought Deming to School
HEADS-UP, there’s a new podcast arriving on Monday, May 4 where I will be speaking with the Chief Learning Officer and Chief Operating Officer for United Schools, John Dues, about his Deming journey, experiences applying the philosophy in education, and his excellent book, Win-Win: W. Edwards Deming, the System of Profound Knowledge, and the Science of Improving Schools. If you are in education or are passionate about learning new ways to improve education with a Deming view, this is an episode you’re going to want to watch. And by the end I guarantee you’re going to want to get a copy of his book to learn more!
NB: This episode will be available to paid-tier subscribers first, with a general release two weeks later on May 18. If you haven’t yet, do consider upgrading your subscription to get early access to exclusives like this — at $8/mo it is a bargain!



Christopher - kudos to you and your efforts to spread the Deming philosophy. I know of Mr. Dues from the Deming Podcast and admire his accomplishments. Mr. Dues sits in a position to make things happen in a very tiny school system. Not that his challenges aren't real - they are. But I served on the School Board of a 15K+ district and after 4 years I was unable to move the Board toward adopting any part of the Philosophy. As Boards, Superintendents, and staff go we had a very good district, but the inertia for change was astonishing. The connective tissue with elected officials is tenuous at best. Although their public face is one of collaboration they each come with their very human incentives. There are no prerequisites for elected officials. Maybe he has some ideas about the differences and difficulties of adopting the Deming Philosophy when you move from a position of real authority in an organization to one of just trying to be an 'influencer'.
Thanks for this post. It’s refreshing to see teachers and principals who care about education.
The only other instructors (that I’ve seen) who care about quality education/training of students is from doing apprenticeship.
I like how a new Deming education philosophy is forming with “old world” methods of apprenticeships.